‘‘Where Peter is, There is the Church’’

Sermon of Bishop Roy on the imperfect general council.

January 1 2026

In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Amen.

During the time of Christmas, I sent to you a link to a story that I wrote to bishops and priests to encourage them to consider the situation of the Church. And as we are starting a new year, I think it is very important for all of us to consider the same.

This story was written somewhat in the manner of a novel. So, maybe it was not as clear for some of you as it should have been. And therefore, I thought that today, on this first day of the year, I would address some of these things.

Our identity as Roman Catholics

You know that we are Catholics. We are Roman Catholics. This is our true name. Our true name is Roman Catholics. We believe in the See of Peter being the center of our Catholic faith, the rock upon which the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ has been established. There is no other rock that has been given to the Church than the rock of Peter.

Nevertheless, we must witness today something very terrible: the fact that this rock is under siege, that there are people occupying the throne of Peter who are in fact destroyers of the Church. And this, whether we like it or not, has been the case for the last 70 years, almost 70 years.  It has been destruction after destruction after destruction.

The successive destructions

They've attacked the faith first, in the Second Vatican Council, changing the Holy Doctrine of the Church. They've attacked the sacraments of the Church one after the other, making them very likely invalid, in the case of many of them, especially the rite of episcopal consecration.

They've attacked the Mass. They've destroyed the Mass as much as it can be destroyed. The Mass was preserved by the grace of God. But they've destroyed, in the public worship, the one that is recognized everywhere as being the Catholic liturgy. They've destroyed the Catholic Mass. So much so that Archbishop Lefebvre would speak of the Mass of Luther, that is a Protestant Mass.

This is not to say that those who have attended this Mass for many years have not received blessings and consolations from God, because God is almighty. God can carry his grace, can give his grace to all souls of good will. No matter how deceived they can be, no matter how fooled they can be by the new religion. Nevertheless, we see that it is complete destruction.

We see also that they've destroyed canon law. They've destroyed the sacrament of matrimony, the holy sacrament of matrimony, granting stupid declarations of nullity to whoever wants one. You want to have your marriage annulled? It's going to be done. Pay the amount that you must pay, and we will declare your marriage to have been null and void. So many people have entered subsequent marriages which were adulteries rather than real Catholic marriages.

This situation has been going on for what very soon will be 70 years. What I wanted to carry to my brothers bishops and priests is: How long is this situation going to last?  

The dispersion of the flock

In the face of such an apostasy, we can easily understand the flock of Christ has been dispersed. I will strike the shepherd and the flock will be dispersed. And this is very much the case now.

There have been people resisting the revolution of Vatican II, the revolution of the new Church. But there was no unity. Everybody, and today this is still true, was quite scattered. The principle of the link of the Faith to gather us into unity is not there.

In front of such a destruction there have been different reactions. Some have said we have to save what is the most urgent thing, that is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This was the reaction of Archbishop Lefebvre, to whom we owe a lot, who maintained the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. He was almost the only one, with Bishop de Castro Mayer, at the beginning. They have ensured as much as was in their power that the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, as established by Our Lord Jesus Christ, would continue along with the Holy Priesthood.

We must also mention here Archbishop Thuc, who also did a lot for the Church by consecrating bishops, being vilified very much for his holy actions to save the Church and to save the Holy Episcopacy.

The suggested solutions

So, there has been a few bishops who have reacted to all of this. But obviously everybody looks forward and ask: what is the solution to this crisis in the Church? What is going to happen? How long are we going to be under the yoke of these impostors who are destroying the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ? and various things have been put forward as solutions for this crisis. How are we going to get out of this complete destruction we are in today?

Most people, and you know that most of your friends, most of your family members, when they think of the Catholic Church, they're actually thinking of the Novus Ordo. They're actually thinking of a false religion that is occupying the buildings of the Catholic Church. That's what they look at. They hear Francis, well, Francis not long ago denying the first commandment of our Lord Jesus Christ. They hear the Vatican blessing sodomite unions, publicly accepting one way or the other the LGBT agenda and so on and so forth.

And they're very much scandalized by what they think is the Catholic Church. And for them, it's a proof, if they needed one, that this Church cannot be the true Church established by Our Divine Savior, Our Lord Jesus Christ. And indeed, it is not. It is the Novus Ordo, another religion than the religion established by Christ.

Fist solution: waiting for divine intervention

And so, some people have said we must wait for divine intervention. Some people have been waiting for this for 70 years, and I agree that divine intervention is needed. The situation is so disastrous that divine intervention is needed in a certain manner. When my mother was a young teenager, a young child, that would be in the 1960s, she told me that in her home, sometimes they would sleep with Skidoo suits on because they were waiting for the three days of darkness to come. They were just about to happen. They needed to be ready to run away in the mountains or some other place, you know, they had a plan to escape whatever chastisement and great events that would happen in the world. She's now almost 70, and she is not waiting anymore for that.

But even though some of these things might happen, what I what I'm trying to say here is that never in the Church did we wait forever until God would directly intervene and fix the problems we face.

There has been a time, as you know the Great Western Schism, with three popes: disastrous situation. There was no solution… How would we ever reconcile three different popes who had each named their own cardinals and who had had excommunicated each other? The situation was disastrous. Nevertheless, Christians did not wait forever.

At some point what we call an imperfect general council was gathered in the Church, comprising clergy of the various factions, of all the different groups. They gathered and eventually the situation of the Church was fixed by the election of Martin V. The three doubtful popes resigned and eventually Martin V was elected instead. The unity of the Church was found.

Second solution : the Thesis of Bishop Guérard des Lauriers

Some other people have elaborated a very complicated explanation for the situation of the Church. It is a man called Bishop Guérard des Lauriers. You might have heard of his name. Bishop Guérard des Lauriers was trying to explain the situation of the Church. How is it possible that what we have under our eyes is happening?

Bishop Guérard was an intelligent man. He was a teacher at the seminary of Écône of Archbishop Lefebvre. He was a teacher and he was regarded by Archbishop Lefebvre and all the clergy under his guidance as a very intelligent man. And prior to that he was holding very important positions in Catholic universities in Rome.

The books we are using with our seminarians have, for some of them, the Nihil Obstat of Father Guérard des Lauriers, who has approved books of philosophy and books of theology for the Catholic Church. Very important books which are used by many today for the formation of their priests.

So, Father Guérard was an intelligent man. Nevertheless, he elaborated a complicated explanation saying that these people had been elected legally, so according to the law, but nevertheless did not have the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ to rule the Church because they were Modernists. They were not Catholic actually.

And Bishop Guérard said : My explanation is going to disappear with time. Eventually, we'll have to consider this church, this new church, as being a completely different church than the Catholic Church, because these men who are not real popes are going to nominate cardinals who are not going to be real cardinals and therefore will have no power whatsoever to elect a Catholic pope.

I'm not willing to go too deep into theology today. But I want you to know that this is another explanation that has been given, and people who follow this explanation are saying today that the only solution to the crisis of the Church is the conversion of some Modernists. Some in the Vatican need to convert. They need to gather into a council and they need to throw out the impostors, the Modernists.

But this solution that is being put forward makes the salvation of the Church, the solution to this crisis, rest in the hands of the heretics, in the hands of those who do not have the Catholic faith. And this, in the history of the Church, has never happened. Never was it the heretics who brought a solution to the various crisis in the Church. It was always the little remnants of the faithful Catholic who would, by the grace of God, with the help of God, bring forth a solution to the crisis in the Church.

Third solution: the imperfect general council

And this is where the third solution comes in, a solution that has been defended by St. Robert Bellarmine and many other theologians before Vatican II. If you read the texts of the theologians before Vatican II, try to find one of all the holy saints - St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Alphonsus Liguori and many other - try to find one who taught that when there's a crisis in the Church, when there is a problem with the one who claims to be the pope, whether he is doubtful (that is we don't know exactly if he is a real pope), or he is suspected of heresy, as can sometimes happen… I say never did theologians prior to Vatican II teach that in that case there is only one solution which is direct divine intervention. That God needs to come down from heaven and fix our problems.

Never did any of them say that the thesis of Bishop Guérard was a solution, that we needed to wait for the conversion of the heretics so that the Church could be put back on her feet.

But many of them said what needs to be done in such a such a situation: the Church needs to call together an imperfect general council. An imperfect general council is a council without the pope. Usually, a council cannot happen without the pope. You need the Pope to have a real council.

Well, an imperfect general council, as there has been in the history of the Church, is a gathering of the Catholic bishops precisely to deal with a problem that is happening at the level of the head of the Church. This is what they did at the Council of Constance, when there were three different popes. Bishops from all over the world gathered. It was easier in these days because there was an emperor who brought them together and forced them to be together, forced them to go along and to find a solution to the crisis of the Church.

Today the situation is worse because not only is there a crisis in the Church, but in the world there's no Catholic kings anymore. There's no Catholic emperor anymore. But nevertheless, an imperfect general council is a gathering of all the bishops, priests and superiors of religious order, all people with influence in the clergy, in the world, to deal with the situation of the Church.

And this I believe is the solution that needs to come to the Church, one way or the other. One day the Church will have to gather and will have to deal with this situation.

The situation of sedevacantism

You know, we believe that this time is a time of sede vacante. That is a time when there is nobody to lead us in the faith. If you believe that Leo is the pope, well, is he really leading us in the faith? Is he leading the Church, or is he leading the Church away from the Catholic faith? Well, I think the answer is very easy, very easy to see: we're not under his guidance and none of those who are keeping the Catholic faith today, pure and undefiled, want to be under the yoke of such a person, who is a perfect product of Modernism.

Indeed, we have no choice but to recognize the situation of the Church. But for us, this situation of sede vacante is not something that can last forever. We refuse to be part of any group that says: there is no pope and that there is no problem with that. Let's continue along forever for another 70 years until either God comes down from Heaven to do something about the situation or until they convert eventually after having built a completely new body of doctrine, a new sacramental life, a new Code of Canon Law, a new legal system.

After having built completely this new religion and imposed it upon everybody, we stay with these people on the side of the road. It's like you're on a bus and there's a problem with the bus. The bus stops on the side of the road and everybody gets off. We set up a camp on the side where we are gathered and 70 years later, we're still in that camp.

We make bonfires every night. We're quite comfortable at the end of the day with that situation. It is a caricature, obviously, but we believe that the Church must work towards this gathering of an imperfect general council. Something must be done. Something must be done with this situation of the Church.

And salvation always came from the faithful clergy in the Church and, according to what we can know, will have this time again to come through the Catholic clergy. But if, in the meantime, while we're working in that direction, God intervenes, God comes down from Heaven and deals with the situation, everybody will be happy. But the Church cannot and has never counted on direct divine intervention alone to fix her problems.

The spirit of my letter

This was the spirit of my letter. I wanted to explain it more clearly to you : I believe - and this position has been in my heart for many years but has become clearer in recent months - that our main work, while the See of Peter is vacant as it is right now, must not simply be for each of us to build our own little group, grow our parish, ordain more priests, and open new parishes. All of that is useful. All of this is very good. But we have a problem at the head of the Church.

Remember what Catholic doctrine teaches: “Where Peter is, there is the Church.” This will always remain true in the Church. It will always remain true. So, if we Catholics who have kept the true faith are not at least concerned that Peter should be in our midst, that there should be a visible head of the Catholic Church leading our souls to heaven, are we really where Peter is?

You are going to tell me: That is impossible. Everyone is divided. There are small groups everywhere, and I agree with that. And in the past, some people have gathered, sometimes just three or four, and “elected” a pope, a false pope. There is a famous case in the United States: a man elected by his grandmother and a few relatives, who became Pope Michael I. That is absolutely ridiculous, and absolutely not what I am trying to say to you today. Absolutely not.

What an imperfect general council is

What is an imperfect general council of the Church? It is a general gathering of all those who have kept the Catholic faith. It will require divine intervention. It will require God to bring us together. But it will first require that Catholic bishops and priests start speaking about this, to mention it openly, and to tell people: Yes, a solution can be found. It will not come from the Modernists, and it is not the practice of the Church to simply wait for direct divine intervention.

Archbishop Viganò wrote something in the occasion of Christmas in which he said that one of the goals of the globalists, one of the goals of the enemies of God, is to make us believe that no solution can be found to our problems. Whether in the State, in the Church, or in the world in general. Their intention is to lead us into such despair that we lose all hope, all human hope, and have no intention of working in the right direction.

Now, I am not in charge of the State, nor of the Church as a whole. But as a Catholic bishop, and I have been surprised in recent months, although this has been going on in the background for a long time, when discussing with various clergy, I have seen how easily many could reach this conclusion. For many years it has been a taboo subject; as soon as you mention that the solution could come from a gathering of all those who have kept the true faith, you are mocked as someone willing to elect a pope in his garage. You are laughed at, ridiculed.

But what we know from theologians of the past is that, yes, indeed, if the whole Church, or at least the moral unity, a large gathering of clergy throughout the world, was to come together, to consider the situation of the Church and to conclude that we are in a situation of vacancy of the See of Peter. We must do something about it. Well, that assembly would be legitimate. This assembly would be gathered in the Holy Spirit.

My message for this new year

So, I'm mentioning this to you at the beginning of this year first to explain the letter that I've sent, or the link to the letter, that I've sent, but also to tell you that I believe that in the coming years we'll have to start speaking about this.

Don't be surprised if you hear that from the pulpit. Don't be surprised if you see other clergy members, because with the grace of God, you know, we are not alone. There are several people who have been silent, but who really believe that this must be done. Who are going to speak in that direction, saying we are the true Church of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Because, at the end of the day, this is the question. If you believe that the solution must come from the Modernists, then you are telling me that the Modernists are representing our Lord Jesus Christ. They are the ones who represent the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ on earth. And this is impossible, because to be representing our Lord Jesus Christ on earth, you need to have the apostolic faith, the faith of the apostles, not the faith of Vatican II, not the faith of humanism, not the faith of naturalism and indifferentism, and all the false doctrines that have been condemned by the popes of the past.

Our prayer intention for 2026

So today we're starting a new year. We're starting the year 2026. It's very likely that there won't be a solution in 2026. But I'm inviting you, all of you, to join in prayer. We need to pray for our Catholic clergy.

All of us Catholic clergy, especially priests, bishops, you know, especially bishops, will have to render an account one day to God Almighty. What did you do for the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ? Did you stay in the camp on the side of the road? Did you light your bonfires every night? Had your beautiful liturgy, had your nice parish, but had no worries about the state of the Church? Had no worries about the the general situation of the Church and souls in going to Hell by the thousands because they're being deceived by a false hierarchy, by a false light that is shining in the world, according to Our Lady of La Salette.

So, what can you do? What can you do? Well, you can pray. You can pray. You can unite in prayer. The whole of the Church needs to unite in prayer so that Peter be given back to the Catholic Church.

The feast of St Peter in Chains

We have this in the feast of St. Peter in Chains. The feast of St. Peter in Chains. I think it is celebrated at the beginning (during this month, certainly), of the month of August. St. Peter in Chains is also the name of our chapel in the north. And I, with the grace of God, wanted to name this chapel after St. Peter in Chains precisely to represent the situation of the Papacy.

You know that at some point during his life as Roman pontiff, St. Peter was taken away and was put into prison, and he was nowhere to be found, and the whole of the Church was praying.

The whole of the Church, we read in the Acts of the Apostles, the whole of the Church, was praying for Peter to be back in their midst. And that's when angels came and broke the chains of Peter and brought Peter back the Church, and he knocked at the door, and people could not believe it when they opened the door, they could not believe that they were standing in front of Peter, and I think that this is a good representation of our situation today.

How many of us pray for a Pontiff? How many of us have lost the sense that the Church is built on Peter? Are we satisfied with maybe having a bishop, having a priest? And have we lost the sense of what the Catholic Church is? How often do we pray for a Roman pontiff to be given to the Church?

The unity question

See, there's a question many people have asked for many years: We can't do a general imperfect council, because we're all divided. We're all divided against ourselves. So, how can we gather into a general council? The question is: should we unite to have a pope? Should we have perfect unity so that we can eventually get a pope or is it a pope who is going to give us perfect unity? These are completely different perspectives.

You know, we don't need to all be in agreement. We clergy, and various parishes, and various bishops around the world, don't need to agree on everything. We need to agree on one thing: right now, the seat of Peter is vacant, and something needs to be done by the authorities of the Church. No matter how dispersed they can be right now, something needs to be done.

Imagine that one day, by the grace of God, and it's going to happen, the Church is eternal. The Church has the words of eternal life. Imagine the day when a Roman pontiff, a true Roman pontiff, a Catholic man is elected to the papacy, given to us by the Church.

Well, there's no disunity about anything anymore. Should we follow this or that liturgy? He will decide. Is this bishop valid or not? He will decide. Who oversees this place or this the other place? He will decide. Everything will be decided by the Roman pontiff. This idea that we need to have perfect unity among the dispersed flock before anything can be done to remedy this situation in the Church, I think is a false idea.

The reality, the truth, is that the whole of the Church must start waking up, and especially the clergy, and realize what is going on. Realize how harmful this is to the Catholic Church. Try to convince other members of the clergy. Try to convince other bishops, other priests, other members of the clergy, and the laity that something needs to be done.

And then, with the grace of God, at some point, is it going to be in five years, in ten years, in fifteen years? I don't know, but something needs to be done with the grace of God. So we will keep that intention in our prayers. I suggest that this could be our intention as a parish for this year.

I pray that the Catholic clergy in the future, whenever God's time, has arrived, the whole of the clergy of the Catholic Church, or at least the main portion of it, comes together in agreeing on the fact that there is no Peter and that where Peter is, there is the Church.

An unpopular, but important message

It is not very popular to say what I'm telling you today. It's not something that will bring you flowers and congratulations. It's persecution. If you speak in that direction, it's persecution, obviously. Why? Because precisely it might be the solution that the Devil wants to prevent. He would rather have us each remain comfortable, each in our position, develop, grow our parishes and not be in touch with each other, not be giving to the world this unity that God has established for His Church.

One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Not many, holy, catholic and apostolic. ONE, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic, and we know that this unity is based on Peter. So let us pray all together during this new year, because this is the main of our problems.

We have problems in our families. We have problems in our country. There are problems in the Church. There are problems in our parishes… Well, this is the main problem. You want to identify the main problem that we're facing today in the world. This is the problem. We don't have the voice of Peter. The voice of Peter is not being heard in the world.

And this has been going on for a number of years. So this is where our prayer should be directed. We should pray in that direction. You should pray that your bishops and priests find the courage also to speak out, to speak out against this false church and to say, no, there is no way that we're going to wait for these people to deal with the problems of the Church.

They're only going to make it worse. Every single time they elect one of their antipopes, false popes, he is worse than the one before. He is preaching the same false doctrines and pushing further the agenda of the Modernist and the Satanists, actually.

The scandalous example of the German Christmas Mass

On public channels, I will finish with that today, on public German Catholic televisions, during the time of Christmas, they featured a Mass, a Mass that was said in one of the churches of Germany. And this was the one they chose to be publicly broadcasted on public television for Catholics who would stay at home and would not be able to attend Mass. During this Mass, there was a pile of hay in the sanctuary. And I'm very sorry to have to say these things in front of God Almighty, but we need to realize what is going on.

There was a pile of hay. On this pile of hay, there was an adult man in some sort of placenta moving around disgusting things. And he was supposed to represent the Baby Jesus, our Lord Jesus Christ. And there were priests, members of the clergy of Germany. There were priests, clergy, gathered around, explaining the symbolism of this wickedness.

They said it was expressing that the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ was brought down to a common birth. In other words, they were saying let's push away this thought that our Lord Jesus Christ was such a special being. Are these people going to be punished by the Vatican? Are they going to be reprehended for what they did? No, they will continue: Modernism, Satanism, destruction of the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We must conclude that these people are not the same Church as we are. They are a different church. This might not happen in every churches for now. But such things are increasingly common, and nothing is done by the false authorities of the Church to put an end to any of these abuses.

But if you want to start saying the Latin Mass, if you want to start having the true faith and the true Church, be faithful to the principles of the faith, be faithful to the Catholic liturgy, the Catholic devotions, the Catholic family life, you're being cancelled, as they say. You're being thrown out. You're being persecuted.

They make sure that you are not going to make too much noise and that you're not going to bring other people to think the way you are.

Conclusion : our prayer for the return of clear Catholic unity

So, as you see, the conclusion to this is that we absolutely need to see, hopefully in our generation, the return of Catholic unity around the See of Peter.

And this is going to be our prayer. We will pray for that intention particularly. We will pray for the priests, the bishops. We will pray for more people to come to this idea, to say yes, maybe God is wanting me to play a role in fixing this situation if I'm a Catholic bishop. Who else is a Catholic bishop today, who else? You have few Catholic bishops who still preach the Catholic faith. So Catholic bishops, Catholic priests, also need to support their bishops in that direction and then the laity, an army under the Mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary. If I criticize divine intervention, do not believe that I'm saying that this is going to be human work. Absolutely not. Divine intervention passes through the efforts of the Catholic faithful, priest, clergy. That's when God intervenes.

The Battle of Lepanto

When the Muslims were invading Europe, Pope St. Pius V could have said, Well, there's too many of them. We have to wait for divine intervention. He didn't say that. He summoned all the Catholic kings to raise their army and to come to the defense of Christendom.

Spain was very famous for having gathered a lot of people and being at the head of this fight. When the Catholic army was gathered, when it started to fight against this invasion, then God intervened. Everybody started praying the Holy Rosary and a wonderful victory was given to Christians. But sometimes, because we're lazy, because we're fearful… I'm speaking of clergy, we're lazy, we're fearful. We want to put away this part, our human efforts. We want to have only divine intervention. That's not the way it works with God. That's not the way it works.

It will be when the clergy will have had enough of that situation, will understand how serious it is and how much it is their duty to do what is in their power to put an end to this crisis, that with the prayers of the faithful, with the prayers of the whole Church, God will give us back this successor of Peter, who is going to guide us towards our eternity. This is our prayer today.

In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.